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  1. I used to be in 3 Constitutions (UGLE-Mother and GLNF & GLoS) now only in UGLE & GLoSI hold SLGR in UGLE however when I went to my French Lodge I wore French Emulation regalia with levels, the levels were decorated with red white and blue and were special (I did go through the chair twice in France) and I was proud to do so. In Scotland when I attend my Lodge I wear Scottish regalia with Rosettes as I have not been through the chair of my Scottish Lodge and therefore not entitled to wear levels.In all 3 Constitutions I am me and the regalia makes no difference, if it really matters to you and you want to show your rank in the other Constitution then you will have to resign from the one that hasn't given you such a high rank.Cant believe I've answered this!
  2. julesthebit (05/05/2017)Greetings brethrenI was a contributer to this forum several years ago, I guess most of you will have forgotten me :)So, this is just a quick note to re-introduce myself.I was initiated in Essex and I'm a Founder of Lodge there, though most of my Freemasonry is now in London.I'm a PM of 5 Lodges, PZ of 3 Chapters and actively involved in Mark, RAM, Rose Croix and RCC.Good to be back.S&F, JulesNo longer involved in the Shrine?Welcome back
  3. SquareTheCarpet (27/04/2017)I want to take as my text a quotation from sparker from last year:~"If Freemasonry dies out, then so be it, but I would not compromise on the principles and tenets of the Craft simply to swell the numbers"I found this a shocking assertion. We should expect to send up more than a sigh and a few involuntary tears at the prospect of the death of the Craft. I should also interject that in the past few years, like Bro. Winston Churchill, rumours of its death have been greatly exaggerated.And to refer in closer detail to that second clause:"I would not compromise on the principles and tenets of the Craft simply to swell the numbers".The principles and tenets of the Craft often boil down to the prejudices and accepted norms of a few self-appointed jacks-in-office who have taken it upon themselves to arbitrate when the rest of us should jump and just how high.The Craft has altered itself to conform with the expectations of the times it has lived through. It has accommodated wherever such accommodation has necessitated to ensure its survival. It seems to me as if people are so accustomed to looking at ice that they forget a time when that stiff white stuff was liquid. There was, for example, once a time when there was no ritual written down and fixed, that people had to commit to memory: if someone started speaking, covered all the essential points, and then stopped speaking to cue the person following them, that would do the job, and not draw a fusillade of tuts from the back row. What is wrong with a return to those days? Men being competitive, it was to be expected they would vie between them in making their recitations the most perfect -- but fixing one version of a text stymies creativity and puts off Brethren with no flair, and much anxiety, around public speaking. And the number of times an elder Brother takes the floor to deliver their own famous performance of a particular piece of ritual, and they stumble over tiny piece of a sentence -- they can't get past it, and because they've learnt the thing whole cloth, instead of learning the *subject* of the speech, they can't "talk around" the hole to get them to the next bit. Worse, that Brother has in the past so dominated that particular section of the ritual that no other Brother could get a look-in, and nobody else has been understudying them, and so no-one can supply the line or take over from them.Who is the Craft? We are the Craft. It is we who will have the last say in whether the Craft lives or dies. And if it die, we shall decide when and how it is reborn.Thats a good post!Thank you
  4. I am a member of our A&AR (30th Degree) and also an Honorary 32nd Degree A&ASR Mason I cannot be a member because that is not allowed! However I was granted this honour a few years ago
  5. nymaso3 (17/04/2017)norwichman (17/04/2017)Trouillogan (17/04/2017) I am not qualified to say anything about the American system except to say that, whereas in England, Wales Scotland and Ireland, the 33rd degree is very rare and difficult to achieve, it appears to be quite commonly conferred in America and seems to differ from ours, because there are, I understand, restrictions preventing American 33rd degree masons from attending our 33rd degree ceremonial. This is not quite right, whilst in The USA both The Southern & Northern Jurisdictions confer The 32nd Degree quite easily the 33rd is as rare in The US as it is over here, also while The US do confer the 32nd quickly they insist on everyone attending all the degrees worked when they are in full form, so you can be a 32nd Degree Mason but you would be expected to participate in all the ceremonies worked between 3 & 32 which is a lot more than worked in Te UK and Ireland. Contrary to popular belief (and I am not saying you Trou believe this) American masonry and masons take these degrees extremely seriously.Just wondering, is the 18th degree ceremony (Rose-Croix) worked in full in US and UK? Does the candidate have an active role in the ceremony?The 18th Degree is just one of the degrees that is worked in their system, when it is worked it is worked in full, although in most cases all ceremonies are more like our 30th where there are several candidates and normally one who will participate in full
  6. Trouillogan (17/04/2017) I am not qualified to say anything about the American system except to say that, whereas in England, Wales Scotland and Ireland, the 33rd degree is very rare and difficult to achieve, it appears to be quite commonly conferred in America and seems to differ from ours, because there are, I understand, restrictions preventing American 33rd degree masons from attending our 33rd degree ceremonial. This is not quite right, whilst in The USA both The Southern & Northern Jurisdictions confer The 32nd Degree quite easily the 33rd is as rare in The US as it is over here, also while The US do confer the 32nd quickly they insist on everyone attending all the degrees worked when they are in full form, so you can be a 32nd Degree Mason but you would be expected to participate in all the ceremonies worked between 3 & 32 which is a lot more than worked in Te UK and Ireland. Contrary to popular belief (and I am not saying you Trou believe this) American masonry and masons take these degrees extremely seriously.
  7. Lewis (15/04/2017)It's the completion of your Third Degree. 33 degrees in freemasonry! Hi LewisCan I ask you why you have written there are 33 degrees in Freemasonry?
  8. There is no official toast to members of The Royal Arch, however a lot of Lodge Masters do take wine with The members of Royal Arch, it just depends on the Lodge/Master. There is certainly no official line on it.I believe anyone considering 'spreading thier wings' should follow thier heart or gut feeling. Unless you are lucky enough to know someone who is in both or all the orders you are considering there is no point in asking, you will always get the reply join Chapter if they are only in Chapter, or join Mark if they are only in Mark etc. Then again I will not recommend any Order until I actually know the person asking for the advice because it is so easy to give wrong adviceGood luck on your journey
  9. A very enjoyable meeting and great to witness your Elevation!
  10. Sentience (26/02/2017)norwichman (25/02/2017)I would think it is The District Grand Lodge of Calcutta, good luck with your researchYes, I did think that, but as Kolkata is spelled with a 'K' there, I assumed that would be DGLK.Hi Sentience, yes you are correct but Lodges formed under The Empire tended to use English spellings, I had another friend who belonged to an Indian Lodge that used The English spelling. When India gained Independence a lot of Lodges moved back to The UK keeping the name and sometimes number but others were given new numbers. I believe The District was named using the English spelling
  11. I would think it is The District Grand Lodge of Calcutta, good luck with your research
  12. I have personally witnessed an Advancement in to The Mark degree and now share membership with 2 brothers who are of The Irish Travelling Community.
  13. I am all booked in and looking forward to catching up with friends old and new
  14. That's interesting Tom! The fact remains it is worked under The AMD of The USA I appreciate that not all States work every Allied Degree but it is there if enough members wanted to!
  15. PM George (30/01/2017)To quote from our Laws and ConstitutionThe Grand Lodge of Scotland recognises no degrees in connection with Freemasonry save those of Apprentice, Fellow of the Craft (including the Mark) and Master Mason, and the Ceremony of Installed Master.It is also not on the list of organisations in amity with Grand Lodge.Not that prevents anyone from joining it. Just remember Grand Lodge doesn't recognise it as Masonic, regardless of the opinion of its members regarding its masonic-ness (I may have made that word up)There are actually several Grand Lodge jurisdictions represented in this Forum, The Jurisdiction that Tom Cherup is from for example contains The Cork Degree within its York Rite System which is in Their AMD. I think its useful to remember when quoting from any Constitutions that the Constitutions your are quoting from do not speak for any Grand Lodge other than that one.In UGLE where I am from Grand Lodge has no interest in any masonic order other than Apprentice, Fellowcraft, Master Mason and The Holy Royal Arch. Its policy is to make no comment on any of The Side Orders. What is important from your post is that The Cork Degree does not appear to be considered incompatible with Grand Lodge of Scotland
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