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  1. Yes, I wasn’t talking about masonic blues at all.
  2. You’re in very impish form today, Hugh! As a Cambridge man, there is only light blue...
  3. "Light the blue touchpaper and stand well back"!
  4. Very good question. In Cambs there are many lodges named after local saints, BVM, Holy Trinity. I like it!
  5. I'm talking about the de-Christianisation of the Craft and Royal Arch under the Duke of Sussex, who became Grand Master in 1813.
  6. There are no side degrees. There are orders which work degrees in addition to the three Craft degrees and Royal Arch. I’m happy with the Ancient & Accepted Rite, the orders administered by Mark Mason's Hall, and the Masonic Order of Athelstan, all of which work degrees I’m satisfied are masonic. I consider the two women's Grand Lodges in this country as masonic. And, as I brought them up earlier, I consider the Scandinavian Grand Lodges as masonic. That list's illustrative, not exhaustive.
  7. A peculiar system of morality, veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols.
  8. That's UGLE's principle. The Scandinavian Grand Lodges are not part of, nor are they subject to, UGLE.
  9. In the context of Craft Freemasonry, yes.
  10. Because it is only unmasonic if a masonic order goes against its rules. The UGLE Book of Constitutions only applies to Craft and Royal Arch, not to anything else. There's lots of Freemasonry beyond the first three degrees of the Craft.
  11. Of course that would be unmasonic today, because English and Welsh Craft Freemasonry dropped that particular requirement two centuries ago. It is a requirement of Scandinavian Grand Lodges, and I don’t have a problem with that. It’s also a requirement of some other Masonic orders here, and I don’t have a problem with that either. Freemasonry is much bigger than the Craft or the UGLE. My mother Craft lodge only admits as members those who have been matriculated into the University of Cambridge. If you’re not a member of the University, you cannot join the lodge. No exceptions. Is that unmasonic?
  12. So, following your logic, Scandinavian Freemasonry is not truly Masonic.
  13. Exactly. I don't think anyone would dispute what Craft Freemasonry is, but plenty would dispute that there is no Freemasonry outside the Craft.
  14. I’m in a number of other Masonic orders, and — with the exception of SRIA, which is not Masonic but recruits only Master Masons — they consider themselves, and I consider them, to be Masonic. UGLE might like to think it has the Masonic monopoly, but that sort of thinking is of no interest to me.
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