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  1. I do agree, however I have asked my lodge on many occasions "what do we offer a candidate that no other Lodge can?, what makes this Lodge different?" only to be met with blank stares. The issue with meeting at a centre where so many other Lodges meet is that they are all in competition and no member of an interviewing committee wants to say "Maybe they would be better joining XXXXX Lodge instead". It should all boil down to what is best for the candidate = what is best for the Lodge. For instance I know of a member who relates how he tried for over 5 years to get his father-in-law to propose him to the Lodge, went to every Ladies night and social function and met with the members socially during those 5 years before his father-in-law finally proposed him, and laments the decline in freemasonry and how members keep resigning. Yet as soon as there is the slightest sniff of a potential candidate who is not known to any member, insists that we must approve him for the next meeting or else "we won't have any work to do".
  2. Unfortunately in this day and age I don't believe this would work in all instances although I would love to be proved wrong. It is also influenced by other agencies. For instance, there are over 50 Lodges meeting at one of my masonic centres so there is a serious case of oversaturation. A candidate will always be able to find a Lodge that will snap him up just to have work to do. In another Province where I belong there is only one Centre in the vicinity and one Lodge. It has over 140 members and a waiting list of several years. Added to that chances are that any prospective candidate is known to many members. I have to admit though that my biggest frustration regarding the interviews is when the prospective member is told that the Lodge holds social functions including Ladies nights. My Lodge last held one in 2006 and when one member arranges to hold a garden party over the summer there is just usually the same half dozen members attending. We have actually had members resign over this when they discovered later.
  3. In the case of the Chapter I have spoken to the member proposing him and pointed out why it is not going to happen. I pointed out that there is no way I can process his form knowing what I know. The Proposer was there at that initial Craft interview so is fully aware of the situation but tried to fob it off as "he (the candidate) was confused" Luckily the Chapter has members that are not also in the Lodge and they are aware of this.
  4. Several years ago I was part of group interviewing a candidate who had been sent to us via Province. The first question was regarding a Supreme Being and we were shocked when the interviewee answered with "Absolutely not, as a man of science I am an atheist and do not agree with any religion therefore I cannot believe in any Supreme Being" Not a lot of wriggle room there. He was hurriedly escorted from the room in the company of the PMs who were going to propose and second him and when he returned a few minutes later answered with "Absolutely I believe in a Supreme Being." Needless to say despite my protestations he was accepted for membership, in fact when I raised my objection I had one member angrily say "well you go and find us another candidate before the next meeting then". I spoke at length to both the Proposer and Seconder afterwards inviting them to withdraw the Candidate and on the evening voted with a black ball as I had already stated. As happens far to often that ball was palmed (however our by-laws state 3 to exclude but it still felt like a cover up) That member joined the Lodge, is still a committed atheist and there are now plans afoot to exalt him into RA. I have spoke to him on many occasions and informed him that the RA is all about your personal relationship with God, therefor how, as an atheist can be swear another obligation regarding something he does not believe in. His answer was "none of this is serious, I thought you couldn't be a member as an atheist but here I am".
  5. I apologise if you thought I was referring to yourself with the "personal property" part above. This is the reason I was given by the Lodge Brother I asked. In fact it was "Why should I give it back? it was given to me and I can do with it what I like and if I want to throw it in the bin or put it on Ebay I can". This Brother has now unfortunately resigned and that part of Lodge history will shortly find itself melted down or thrown away instead of being worn by a new Past Master.
  6. I am fully aware this has been talked about many times, however it comes down to custom and practice in your Lodge. PM jewels are not official jewels which is why they are not worn at Grand Lodge and also why there is no mention in the BoC. As far as I am aware, the practise of awarding a Master with a memento of his time in office does not refer to the PM jewel but a PM collar and collar jewel which is then officially part of his regalia (clothed according to his Rank) My point is that if you are presented a PM jewel that is engraved with the names of all the previous holders AND the custom in your Lodge is that these jewels are recycled, to claim it is your personal property to dispose of as you see fit is not exactly charitable.
  7. Ah yes, Past Masters Jewels. Definitely a minefield. I have a Past Masters engraved and hallmarked jewel with the Lodge Crest enamelled which I purchased from the widow of a member. However many of the original jewels have gone missing, in fact I know of only 5 remaining. It is generally accepted that one hands these back to the Lodge on gaining Provincial Honours, especially if, as in our case, it is engraved with the names of earlier holders. I still wear mine as I do not have Provincial Honours. However, I was recently shocked when asking a Brother who holds Provincial Honours if he could possible please return the Past Masters jewel in his possession in order to pass it on to the outgoing Master. Lets just say it was not a polite refusal. Anyway back to the subject, I am aware of companies that make small batch orders but I am looking for a singular jewel.
  8. Brethren After having gone into another Chair (RAM) for the first time I will shortly be looking around for a PCN Jewel. I don't know what others thoughts are but I dislike some of the cheap "bits of tin" that pass for jewels these days and if possible I locate older jewels from when there seemed to be some craftsmanship attached. Unfortunately a PCN jewel has escaped my searches apart from those with individual Lodge names on the top bar. Does any brother know of a source that for old (previously enjoyed) jewels or failing that a maker of higher quality jewels they can recommend. (apart from Ebay of course which is where many end up)
  9. Is anyone aware of MMH altering their dress code?I attended a meeting last Saturday for an order where we wear regalia that covers everything, therefore we don't tend to wear Morning suits.Personally I was wearing a white dress shirt, grey chinos and dress shoes, in other words what is termed business casual.As I walked in I was told, rather rudely by the guy on reception "I hope you are going to get changed sir". When I checked the dress code on display it clearly states "no jeans, trainers or t shirts" so I fail to see the issue.As the rest of the members turned up they also experienced the same.I did not wish to raise an issue at the time as I am aware of at least one individual on a previous occasion (who admittedly turned up in jeans) being banned from MMH for arguing about the dress code.
  10. Welcome back JulesIt seems to have gone very quiet on all the masonic forums at the moment but this one is the busiest I have found.
  11. I thought last night episode raised a few red flags.So far (2 episodes in) the focus seems to be on showing those who are closer to the "comfortably off" section of the membership, which from comments around my office are leading to "well you obviously have to have lots of money".Secondly, the Indian guy stated that when he first decided to become a Mason it was to get lots of money and to get on in business. I was expecting him to follow up with "but then when I joined I found out it is not about that" or something similar.Again, around the office this has been taken to imply that we all join to get on in business.Finally, the sky-diving WM who was testing the EA on his Passing questions came across as a bully.
  12. Incidentally, after watching this I would just like to ask;How many others enlist the help of their significant others when learning ritual?Its something I have never done but now realize I may have been restricting myself.
  13. Of course. That was where I recognized him from. Rory Breaker, AKA "MR" Breaker, from lock, stock and two smoking barrels.
  14. I am still undecided on whether this is good for the Craft or not.Firstly it must be mentioned again that this program was not commissioned by UGLE but by an outside company who were looking to expose our "Dirty secrets" (and have gone on record to say they are pleasantly surprised albeit in a condescending manner).It started off with the comment "Freemasonry was started in England 300 years ago". We know that is not true but I can already hear the complaints from north of the border.There were no interviews but several masons talking directly about the Craft including Rick Wakeman, The Pro Grand Master, and several brethren wearing light blue which showed a good mix of ethnicities and ages.They showed parts of some ceremonies - The Grand or Royal Sign, the sign of fidelity and the first degree sign, but without drawing attention to them. Also shown was a Festive Board with Fire and toasts, the Installation obligation of the PGM of Berkshire (or it might have been Bedfordshire) and a significant portion of the Charge after Installation.The main players were the afore mentioned PGM showing him preparing for his Installation, a Lewis being initiated into his fathers Lodge, and a SW (and later WM) as he learnt the Charge (with his girlfriend prompting him from his ritual book).The comments I have received at work range from "I saw that program last night, it was really interesting" to "Do you have one of those fancy pinny's".
  15. Well Brethren, it seems that appointment season is well and truly here.I have just received a letter from Provincial Grand Chapter offering me the active rank of Provincial 1st Assistant Grand Sojourner.:)
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