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  1. I wouldn't have thought that it was that strange to north american masons, i'm sure the different grand lodges in america don't agree on everything.
  2. No this journey is solely being taken on my own, funnily enough it was my mother who knew more than my father, she was a jeweller in the 50's and made things like masonic balls and two ball canes, quite surprised that she knew all the words.
  3. Apart from Mikes post asking if freemasonry maybe began in China and the GM of Ireland having no problem with freemasonry having its origins in England. Where do you educated brethren believe that freemasonry began? I think we would first have to decide what we class as freemasonry, is it what we understand it to be now, ie speculative or is it at the point of transferring from operative to speculative or are we going all the way back to the building of cathedrals like athelstane at york or even the earliest minutes from a meeting?I always believed that scottish lodges were the oldest in existence so i think the irish GM is incorrect but i would be happy to be proved otherwise.
  4. Just checked the link stephe andd its good to see my view point hasn't changed.
  5. Got to agree, where is the appropriate point. On a side note i just read an excellent post from mosaic, which was from the heart, about his first time on the floor and his friend being initiated. He also managed some gentle ribbing of his friend by asking him to learn the simpsons stonecutter song. I see no problem whatso ever with what mosaic did but i ask you all what is the difference.
  6. The way i understood this was that no one was joking DURING the ceremony, slight ribbing is accepted,afterwards and once the candidate walks into the care of the deacons his mind is put at rest and the ceremony is conducted in the manner befitting freemasonry.
  7. Excellent choice of humour. good story, hope it happened. the ritual inside the temple is the serious part. we take ourselves far too seriously sometimes and some people just need to lighten up, nobody was harmed.
  8. The answer to this is simple, visit Scotland. As Sojourner has stated, you find out when the meeting is on turn up on the night take a test, usually carried out by the WJW and a PM and join the meeting. No Dues cards, No passports, no certificates, no convuluted letters or e-mails going between secretaries , Everything is taken on your masonic honour. It is sometimes best to take a friend who can vouch for you but if thats not possible then no problem.
  9. Would that mean that Rob Green is an insect or a fumble bee.
  10. I always found it strange that every other character or person mentioned from history in freemasonic lectures and rituals are real, as far as the bible is concerned anyway, but hiram abiff isn't, i have always thought that there must be more to this than just a made up story.
  11. Good first question Danny, unfortunately nobody knows for sure. There are a lot of theories, decended from the guilds of middle ages, decended from the ancient builders of the temples of king solomon or even further back with the building of the pyramids but nobody really knows for sure. All we really do know is that the stories we teach are based on some of the above and helps to make good men better by getting them to look within themselves for improvement.
  12. lars (20/03/2010)Freemasonry were never a secret society. Yes it was lars, and if you look at the history it was only after certain government officials as well as royalty stepped in to speak up for freemasonry that it was given certain exceptions. If that had not happened it would have been treated the same as all other secret societies at the time. As has been said before, our forefathers in freemasonry were not scared to call it a secret society and stand up for their rights to be a member thereof, and neither should we be.
  13. You don't say wether you agree or disagree with his statements tom. I don't like the multiple degrees on one day and the fact that as many candidates as you want can be put through. It did seem as though he meant this for degrees beyond the craft or blues masonry but i still think it would be better for it to be limited. I really don't like his views on ritual books either, a Lodge is putting its warrant in jeapordy if someone is seen reading a ritual book during a meeting, how does that seem fair, i don't see anything wrong with a brother following the degree in his ritual book, what harm will this cause? The last point which got yo me was dictating which charities the lodges should support, if the grand lodge or provincial grand lodge wants to support certain charities than that is their choice, if they also wish to ask lodges to guide their efforts in certain directions then that i can understand as well. but to put a levy on a lodge of $2000 per year to support that charity is, in my opinion, wrong. Most of his other directives is him putting his own stamp on things, like relaxing the dress code and allowing changes in ritual (i can understand this although i don't agree with it). The last thing i will say is, is increasing the post of DDGM to 10 years, a jobs for the boys option.
  14. To me our modern concept of freemasonry was changed due to the political situation between scotland and england at the start of the 1700's. due to the fact that the moderns didn't want to be associated with anything to do with jacobitism, they moved away from the freemasonry which came down to england with James I, and made it more of a gentlemans club. The fact that freemasonry was going long before this is not in question, the schaw statutes from the 1500's are clear evidence of that. Then we have the sceptical view that St Alban in 298AD and then Athelstane in 926, and Kilwinning in 1126(i think) but what we don't know is wether that was only builders or speculative freemasonry as we understand it today( or could understand it qs it has changed over 700 or 900 years). I think that the reason that i don't believe that these groups had words and grips as well as initiations is, as bod has said, there are no facts or proof's, only speculation. But again going back to firemist's question, i also don't think that it matters to me that much wether it is as old as "time immemorial" but there must have been some amazing builders back then and their understanding of geometery and science was by far a greater achievement in understanding in anything that we have done since. Would i like it to go that far back, yes, Will it make me a better mason, no. I believe that the system we have is great for the teachings that we have and will continue to make good people better.
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