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  1. Theoretically -but highly unlikely, our Provincial Meeting, nominally scheduled for 2 July, could take place ... but more likely to occur on the backup date of 21 October
  2. I know you won't say - and I understand why not, but I'd be really curious to know the Craft Province you belong to as I have met a fair few of the PGMs/Deps/Secs of the Provinces surrounding London when I was ASec of my Province and in my current capacity, and they'd be horrified to discover what you've intimated goes on under their noses!
  3. If you're talking about creating a new lodge in London under anything other than UGLE, forget it; it will not be allowed. If it's to be created in either Scotland or Ireland, then you'd have to ask the appropriate authorities there as I doubt there are many on here who could anwser your question. Insofar as to your question about Provincial Stewards, as per the other Provincial Officers, their appointment is the sole choice of the ProvGM, and is most likely down to your Visitng Officer's recommendation (assuming you have them in your Province). In no case are you recommended for a particular office, only for appointment to Provincial Grand Rank. The only case where a Steward is recommended, are Grand Stewards, where the relevant lodges are INVITED to put a name forward (normally the ruling Master), but even then, there's no guarantee he will be accepted. As far as the duties are concerned, that varies from Province to Province, but nominally, escorting the rulers and acting as ADC, organising Provincial meetings, setting up said meetings etc. Basically you would be the manual labourer for the Province, and the general dog's body.
  4. I would also ask whether you're a member under UGLE? It would appear not...?
  5. Looks to be this lodge therefore ... https://www.pmklodge.co.uk/ Warranted on my birthday(!)
  6. Given your reference to OES, I suspect you may be in the US(?) - in which case, you need to be aware that this forum is based in the UK and therefore it's not something we can advise you about. For info: whilst I can't comment on Scotland or Ireland, membership of the OES in England or Wales is incompatible with membership of UGLE.
  7. That's a craft founders jewel. Given the red ribbon and the cornucopia, it's probable that it comes from a Provincial Grand Steward's Lodge - Grand and Provincial Grand Stewards are the only ones permitted to wear red. Where did you acquire it from?
  8. So West End to Bristol - that a fair distance! enough I think!!
  9. Just make it Universal - covers everyone then 🙃. That's my Logic anyway!
  10. More than happy to be corrected - and pleased to hear it! I know Essex employs some permanent staff (or did pre-Covid19), whether they are moving to more volunteers I don't know (even though I'm also an Essex mason).
  11. Unfortunately, it appears that the larger Provinces (and perhaps UGLE itself) seem to feel they have to find things to do to justify the employment of permanent staff and find them something to do - and maybe that's the problem. Smaller Provinces however, - like ours, don't employ anyone (educated guess there...); everyone who is actively doing something is an unpaid volunteer. Yes, we identify a likely individual, but after that, if they take to post/job, they do so because they want to, and can step down when it suits them. Financial overheads are therefore at a minimum, but you also get an organisation that works because the members WANT it to work. Jon doesn't get paid for what he does for the Province - other than perhaps travelling expenses, and nor do I - everything I do to create our yearbook is in my own time, but using open source tools so that whoever takes it over won't be subjected to financial limitations to pick things up - just a download. We have our own online membership database and secretary/DC/mentor/etc reporting system that fits what we as a Province want from it. Interestingly, it was one of those demo'd in the specification phase of Hermes and I'm given to understand that the GSec said "that's what we should be aiming for" - he is a member of, and lives in the Province, so it's entirely possible that he'd had a private demonstration in advance so had some preconceptions. I gather that the other demo owners were not initially taken with it, but (grudgingly) admitted it wasn't bad by the end. I'll watch the implementation of Hermes with interest, although I'm not holding my breath.
  12. Agreed Jon - and I think you'd agree that that's down to the ProvGM and our Membership Officer's enthusiasm (and you of course as the Prov Mentor!)
  13. In our case, the 'membership officer' is used at Province level as the contact point for 'cold' contacts; he then talks to the individual to determine his initial suitability and what the individual is looking for. He then passes the individual to the membership officer in the individual lodges that seem to match what the applicant is looking for. It's obviously still down to the lodge to decide if they want to accept him. The appointment of a membership officer just goes someway to alleviating what -realistically- would become another job the secretaries end up doing, and gives the lodges a named individual to handle things. When I was the ProvASec, I dealt with the applicants - in addition to the work I was already doing, and when I had someone who I felt was a possibility, I then had to cast around within individual lodges to find who to pass them on to; it'll be so much easier now with individuals being identified at every level for the specific 'role'. Personally, I consider the move beneficial for secretaries who have enough to do as it is. Yes you can argue that it can be done informally and I wouldn't disagree, but how many times do those of us who actually step forward to do the various jobs that need doing find that it's assumed we'll take on something else "because he'll do it"? I'd much rather have a formal(ish) position that someone can take on with the understanding that they have an important role to do. Even if it is an additional office, isn't it better that an individual is identified and tasked with the job of dealing with cold applicants? The days of personal introduction are -lets face it, long gone. When was the last time that lodges members introduced someone themselves? Isn't it the case that the vast majority of new applicants/initiates come via the internet or reading about some of the charity work we do?
  14. You might want to ask your secretary for a copy(!) - he's actually supposed to pass a copy to all qualified members as you (as WM), and all the PMs and Wardens for the year are a) entitled to go, and b) as an Installed Master you've actually a MEMBER of Grand Lodge. He, as secretary, gets notified when it's posted and instructed to pass a copy on.
  15. Not entirely sure what you mean by '... new (non-designated office) role ...' Andrew, but if you take a look at the agenda for the Dec QC (not sure if it actually happened), you'll see that there are/will be 2 new Grand/Provincial/Lodge appointments seniority as follows .. ... Charity Steward Membership Officer Communications Officer (Grand/Province/District only) Senior Deacon ... And Rule 104(a) "Officers of a Lodge" to be amended to identify Membership Officer as an 'additional officers' with jewel tbc ... or is that what you mean? In my lodge (and a fair few others in Cambs), we make use of our Assistant Secretary (I'm the secretary). He takes care of circulating all the GL and PGL stuff that comes in via email. He prepares draft minutes for lodge meetings for me, he prints and sends summons/minutes to those members who are not on email, leaving me to deal with lodge specific stuff .. annual and installation returns, compiling summonses, scheduling stuff and so on. In my first stint as secretary back in the mid-90s pre-email, I printed everything out, and my assistant (and his wife) stuffed all the envelopes and posted them for me - saving me hours of work. So my question is: are you sure that your ASec doesn't do anything? or does he do a lot more than you realise? - it's often a working arrangement agreed between the secretary and the assistant, and many members (and WMs!) don't actually realise how much the ASec actually does and thinks it's a 'nothing' job.
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