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  1. " Personally, I would like to see the Mark Degree as the first ceremony, followed by the passing of the veils as the second, which is then completed with a third degree-exaltation. This would make the HRA completer and more substantial, as I find having just one ceremony a little disappointing. " That, in a nutshell, is the Scottish Royal Arch system. I think it worth pointing out that we meet seven times a year, not three and an Installation of the Principles and Office Bearers. You would have to increase the number of meetings each year to accommodate the extra ceremonies. And I think you would find some "resistance from above" to importing what some would regard as "foreign ritual".
  2. There is quite a difference in the signs used in England and Scotland, ie., the signs for all three Craft Degrees vary greatly. And just wait until you get to the Temple Degrees and Rose Croix. Still. still part of Life's rich tapestry.
  3. In Scotland the Royal Arch consists of three Degrees (aside from the Installation of the Principals and Office bearers) The Mark, which is the first degree an applicant for the Royal Arch will take (and like in England and Wales you must be a M.M. before being eligible to take the Mark), The Excellent Masters Degree (The Passing of the Veils) and finally the Exaltation. In Scotland the Mark Degree is primarily considered a Royal Arch Degree although by "agreement" between the Supreme Royal Arch Chapter of Scotland and the Grand Lodge of Scotland it can also be given in Craft Lodges (and nowadays this is the more usual route). I put "agreement" in inverted commas because that is a story in itself. The main difference is that the R.W.M. of a Scottish Craft Lodge dispenses the Mark Degree by virtue of his authority of being Installed in the Chair of K.S. He is not an Installed Mark W.M. as recognised in England & Wales. That, on occasion, leads to "debate" as to whether a Mark mason made in a Craft Lodge is a "proper" Mark mason". I stay well out of such debates, having been Initiated, Passed, Raised, Advanced and Exalted in England but having been through all those ceremonies in Scotland as well. So I've been "double done", as it were. Should an applicant to join a Chapter have already received his Mark Degree in a Craft Lodge his first step would be to affiliate his Mark to the Mark Lodge held within the Chapter. Consisting of a short Obligation he would then go straight into the Passing of the Veils Degree that evening.
  4. And warm greetings from Scotland. I look forward to your posts.
  5. A warm welcome from Scotland. My Mother Lodge was Ashlar Lodge No 6714 in the Province of Cheshire (now sadly extinct), WM 1986 - 1987. I am now living in Scotland and am member of Craft, Chapter, KT's, Cryptic, 18th and 30th up here. All very different from UGLE Land. Welcome and Season's Greetings from me.
  6. When looking at the drawing of "professor Sprout" I am struck by the depiction pf the key around her neck and reminded of a part in the Masonic Catechisms (First Section): Q. As Masons, how do we hope to get at them? A.By the help of a key. Q. Does that key hang or lie? A. It hangs. Q. Why is the preference given to hanging? A. It should always hang in a Brother's defence, and never lie to his prejudice. Q. What does it hang by? A. The thread of.....etc Which I suppose would have some weak relevance to "The deadly Hallows". I am not sure how her reference to the Sq, & C's and A.S.E. on Sean Connery's costume would result in a C and T. But hey. I enjoyed her Potter series. And her depiction of life at Hogwarts reminded me so much of my days and the atmosphere at boarding school.
  7. Hi Matthias, Welcome to the Forum. My daughter, when she graduated in Diagnostic Radiography at University, did an attachment to the main Hospital in Helsinki for several months. She is left with a deep liking for Finland and for the Finish people she met over there. She can even order beer in Finnish ! We look forward to your questions and to you taking your interest further.
  8. Congratulations from me and every best wish at the start of your journey.
  9. The advice I received was: Stand up to be seen. Speak up to be heard. Sit down to be appreciated. The advice contained so far should be quite sufficient for your maiden speech. And have a wonderful evening.
  10. I think, but not absolutely positive, it is from the Order of the Eastern Star, which is more prevalent in America and in Scotland than in England. Classed by UGLE as "imitative or quasi Masonic", it admits women as well as men. A woman must be related to a regular Mason and the men must be regular Masons. Strictly frowned upon and forbidden in the English Constitution, in Scotland it coexists quite happily with regular Masonry and many Masons and their wives are members here. Indeed many Eastern Star 'Lodges' (I'm not sure if that's the correct term for their gatherings) meet at regular Masonic Halls. Hope that helps.
  11. Another story with insinuations in yesterdays "Telegraph" : - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/25/decorated-undercover-police-officer-accuses-freemasons-blocking/
  12. Closed minds are not open to reason, discussion, argument or facts. As a "Lizard Person" I know. I've tried.
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