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Greetings from Norway.

I am a Norwegian IT network and security engineer that became interested in Masonry after many many years of studying several German Rosicrucian encoded books and a notebook from Kassel, published the special year written twice (2) with the number 17 :)

After 20 years or so of studying these documents by analyzing the by systematic cryptography, I managed to fully uncover the system and document it, and finally writing a complete documentary book on it, and the historical implications of an ancient but still existing masonic and RC code. I discovered a code originating in ancient Egypt, applied by ex. Plato, Pythagoras and later applied in other European Religious writings, art, The Shroud, by our greatest artists, The Jesuits and in intellectual writings like Shakespeare etc. Still applied by artists worldwide today. I guess you know just what I talk about..

A code leading to a special ancient secret figure..going by the name of "The Grail" and finally "The Philosopher's Stone". Hidden by the use of Gematria, invisible Geometry and systematic font-manipulations etc. By numbers like 33+55 -> 88 -> Two x 53 - > 106, ODD FELLOMS.. 2Bacon - Gemini, 37/53 etc.    Many know what I talk about I guess..

I guess this would be interesting for some curious Masons to be a part of such a project ? If you know of any, let me know

I hold lectures, while the book is still under review and development.

 

Best Regards:

ØR

J.E.E.O 

Johann Ern5t Elia5 ORFFYRE'

 

 

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Hi Johann,

From all that I get the impression that you are not actually a Freemason.

While this Forum welcomes non Masons it is only to ask questions about Freemasonry and we don’t really get into conspiracy theories.

So please check the rules and we look forward to your questions about Freemasonry.

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I hope you read my post, because I never said I was a Freemason. I just said I got interested because I studied cryptography and Geometry of some old books of Rose Cross and it was tied to Masonry. Why would I ask questions in public about Masonry here, f I was one? Actually, if I was, I wouldn't be comfortable writing those numbers in public. Only by the use of Gematria 🙂 

I don't ask if what I say is correct. I have studied that well enough, more than most people in the world, and also gotten it confirmed by many (Mostly by RCs and mathematicians etc.). For example, I'm sure you know the geometry of your own background image? I'm sure you don't say the picture is a part of a conspiracy? Or you actually did! I also know you use the word conspiracy here as a way to avoid others taking me seriously. It's a shame. I also know your obligation ref. Albert Pike, is to lead "us" astray :) If so also lead us astray about the truth in the below picture. (And many many more). All can see that the bottom part is a Square, as in Plato's Meno, And that two 3-4-5 triangles is indicated in the middle (two times 53 degrees = 106 degrees). As can be created/drawn inside the 4x3 part of a 4x4 square. Then all can see that the upper part is a 4x3 format. And everybody knows that inside a 3x4, the diagonal is of length 5. Thus creating the Pythagorean triangle of 3-4-5 where the upper vital angle is of 53 degrees, (where side 5 and 3 meets..So Geometry, not conspiracy). Often Gematria is therefore used to spell "53" or "106". 

Inside this figure you can draw the Moon and the Earth at a perfect ratio, creating the well known pyramid (or as a square and compass)... Also we get the ancient approximation of "Squaring the Circle" and so on. Many people outside Masonry know, so you, using the figure yourself must certainly know).

If that is a conspiracy theory? Do you want me to draw it up here? If so, where can I post it?  

I actually just asked, maybe some masons here wanted to be a part of publishing such historical documentation. For example by translating to local language, local publishing etc etc. If so,jJust send me message..

antient_arms.jpg.f4eeaec7d613b120706a8d4

 

 

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Just one two points here:

As far as I'm aware, only a few people study numerology and perhaps a few more study alchemy.  Of those there may be a small proportion who are freemasons.  So what you are describing is hardly mainstream and certainly not within the three degrees of pure Antient Freemasonry as practised under the three home lodges of England, Ireland and Scotland.

You mention having read Albert Pike's work.  He was an American who wrote some books containing his own personal views and opinions.  They have absolutely no authority whatsoever, although some American freemasons have a regard for his work.  Again, his writings have no bearing or relationship with our freemasonry here, other than as a passing curiosity perhaps.

The use of gematria is so far removed from our freemasonry as to be utterly irrelevant.  Of course, there are non-masonic organisations and groups that do make it their study.

The image you show of the two coats of arms was used by Laurence Dermott as the frontispiece to his Book of Constitutions, 'Ahiman Rezon', published in 1756 and that is all.  There's an illustration here:

https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://freimaurer-wiki.de/images/thumb/c/c4/Ahiman_Rezon_Book.jpg/800px-Ahiman_Rezon_Book.jpg&imgrefurl=http://freimaurer-wiki.de/index.php/Ahiman_Rezon&h=680&w=800&tbnid=0LpRpRIu-VdrZM:&q=ahiman+rezon&tbnh=136&tbnw=159&usg=AI4_-kR0fL-rUxQImeb6b1ugmloUCS6oNQ&vet=12ahUKEwjHpef-_JfeAhVH3KQKHW6SA_oQ_B0wD3oECAoQFA..i&docid=xGa3rQw1swjN9M&itg=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjHpef-_JfeAhVH3KQKHW6SA_oQ_B0wD3oECAoQFA 

It depicts both the arms of the (operative) Masons' Company of London and the arms that he adopted for his own Grand Lodge initially comprising largely Irish immigrants.

You might find interest in your work elsewhere, but I very much doubt you find any in this forum.

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Hi again Johann,

i did ask you to read the rules and so I hope that you have.

regarding the misinformation you posted regarding Pike it shows that you (unlike me) haven’t actually read Morals and Dogma but are quoting a conspiracy theory about it and what is written within it. You’ll find the refutation of “outer portico” in this topic here: 

 

Finally if you’re not interested in finding out about Freemasonry, there is actually little point in being a member of this Forum.

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On 10/21/2018 at 5:49 PM, J.E.E.O said:

I hope you read my post, because I never said I was a Freemason. I just said I got interested because I studied cryptography and Geometry of some old books of Rose Cross and it was tied to Masonry. Why would I ask questions in public about Masonry here, f I was one? Actually, if I was, I wouldn't be comfortable writing those numbers in public. Only by the use of Gematria 🙂 

I don't ask if what I say is correct. I have studied that well enough, more than most people in the world, and also gotten it confirmed by many (Mostly by RCs and mathematicians etc.). For example, I'm sure you know the geometry of your own background image? I'm sure you don't say the picture is a part of a conspiracy? Or you actually did! I also know you use the word conspiracy here as a way to avoid others taking me seriously. It's a shame. I also know your obligation ref. Albert Pike, is to lead "us" astray :) If so also lead us astray about the truth in the below picture. (And many many more). All can see that the bottom part is a Square, as in Plato's Meno, And that two 3-4-5 triangles is indicated in the middle (two times 53 degrees = 106 degrees). As can be created/drawn inside the 4x3 part of a 4x4 square. Then all can see that the upper part is a 4x3 format. And everybody knows that inside a 3x4, the diagonal is of length 5. Thus creating the Pythagorean triangle of 3-4-5 where the upper vital angle is of 53 degrees, (where side 5 and 3 meets..So Geometry, not conspiracy). Often Gematria is therefore used to spell "53" or "106". 

Inside this figure you can draw the Moon and the Earth at a perfect ratio, creating the well known pyramid (or as a square and compass)... Also we get the ancient approximation of "Squaring the Circle" and so on. Many people outside Masonry know, so you, using the figure yourself must certainly know).

If that is a conspiracy theory? Do you want me to draw it up here? If so, where can I post it?  

I actually just asked, maybe some masons here wanted to be a part of publishing such historical documentation. For example by translating to local language, local publishing etc etc. If so,jJust send me message..

antient_arms.jpg.f4eeaec7d613b120706a8d4

 

 

To clarify a bit. 

You wont learn about freemasonry by studying old german texts as the rituals have gone in other directions as the ritual writers saw fit.

Albert Pike is only intressting in a AASR context outside of it he is worthless.

 

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My work started here url removed

Here you will find that font-variations, Gematria (PROVEN) (removed "letters or values", hidden Geometry and Euclid's Elements is applied. Using the methods of the Rosy Cross. As the older Masonic Encyclopedia states: "Rosicrucianism is still done with great bravur.". How come..you can say, but not explain? :) This German book explains well. He was a mathematician, and a printer and taught secret writings by a Jesuit priest and a Rabbi seeking the secrets of nature...  

It's not only Pike that say that All Masonry i based upon Pythagoras formula, as described in the original print of Euclid Problem 1:47.

On this forum (the former version) Plato and Pythagoras was mentioned by one of you, when describing the origin of Masonry. Most sites and Masonic book does. The author and the book above explains why, by applying the same code.

The linked figure, and it's geometric foundation can be found in Euclid's Elements. Something about 3 and 5 🙂 yes, proven. And something about where it leads. Written in chapter 55 of the book. And applied Gematria as shown, adding up to 1717 :)  Something special about the year he writes.. something about 17 twice..something about 17 = 8.

It's written in his books, as you can see. Sorry people aren't curious of historical facts and true art.

Best regards.

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